Tech behemoth OpenAI has touted its artificial intelligence-powered transcription tool Whisper as having near “human level robustness and accuracy.”

But Whisper has a major flaw: It is prone to making up chunks of text or even entire sentences, according to interviews with more than a dozen software engineers, developers and academic researchers. Those experts said some of the invented text — known in the industry as hallucinations — can include racial commentary, violent rhetoric and even imagined medical treatments.

Experts said that such fabrications are problematic because Whisper is being used in a slew of industries worldwide to translate and transcribe interviews, generate text in popular consumer technologies and create subtitles for videos.

More concerning, they said, is a rush by medical centers to utilize Whisper-based tools to transcribe patients’ consultations with doctors, despite OpenAI’ s warnings that the tool should not be used in “high-risk domains.”

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    Ml is currently best used as a tool for helping a real human do work. It has to be managed and governed and checked after. It’s still capable of amplifying the amount of work we can do, But it’s kind of like having to have an architect look after engineering work, you can’t just pass the buck and pretend that it’s going to be fine.

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    As someone who uses Whisper fairly often, it’s obvious that they’ve trained off of a bunch of YouTube videos.

    Most of the time it’s very accurate, but there have definitely been a few times in long transcription sessions where it will randomly hallucinate that someone is saying “Don’t forget to like and subscribe!” When nothing was said anywhere near that.

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      That’s hilarious. I just love how AI is basically like a 6-year-old who weaves his favorite new expressions into everything without fully understanding what they mean.

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    A few months back my GP asked if they could use a transcription thing they were trialling during my consult.

    He seemed shocked when I declined.

    I just don’t understand why anyone would actually want that?

    I want my doctor to listen to what I tell him, and I don’t really want what I say to be used for any other purpose, because no other purpose would be to my benefit.

    Next week they’ll be adding to share “basic characteristics” about me with third party “wellness partners”.

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    Why is generative AI even needed for audio transcription? We’ve had decent voice recognition tools for years even on cheap consumer grade stuff.

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        Because with normal algorithms you have someone to blame.

        AI is a trick to hide when you steer the results the way you want.

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      Whisper really is a lot better when it works, and it’s free. The problem is that it refuses to produce gibberish or give up when it doesn’t work. You’ll always need an editor.

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        The toaster oven I just invented works much better than a traditional one. It reheats French fries perfectly, you can dehydrate in it, makes succulent roasted chicken, and about 2.5% of the time it burns down your house. You’ll always need to keep an eye on it to make sure that doesn’t happen. Remember though, much better than a traditional one.

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      No, we really haven’t had on-device voice recognition that meets any definition of “decent”. Anything reasonable phones out to “the cloud” for decent voice recognition.

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        So? I’d rather have my software talk to a server than be downright wrong just so another business can climb onto the AI bandwagon.

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    “This seems solvable if the company is willing to prioritize it.”

    I know how to make the company prioritize it: make Whisper illegal to use (or even promote) until a certain threshold of accuracy is met. This software is absolute garbage at best, and a genuine hazard at worst.

    Lame, ineffective “warnings” serve no purpose but to cover OpenAIs ass. Hit them in the wallet, and they’ll pay attention.

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      Rather than making it illegal to use, people need to use these tools responsibly. If any of these companies are using almost any kind of AI/machine learning they need to include a human in the loop that can verify that it’s working correctly. That way if it starts hallucinating things that were never said, it can be caught and corrected.

      I’ve found that Whisper generally does a better job at translating/transcribing audio than other open source tools out there, so it’s not garbage… But it absolutely is a hazard if you’re trying to rely solely on it for official documents (or legal issues).

      As far as promotion goes… It’s open source software, it’s not being sold.

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    I’ve read that this is only going to continue to happen (and get worse) because we’re basically out of human-generated training data that’s publicly available on the internet, so models are being trained on content generated by other models. They literally make shit up constantly, and every generation gets dumber and dumber until they can’t even stay on topic or complete a coherent sentence anymore.

    Edit: Here’s the post I was reading, written by Ed Zitron. It’s pretty well written and thoughtful, though it is an opinion article from some guy’s blog at the end of the day. Also, by “generation,” I mean generations of AI, not generations of people.

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    Some examples

    In this example, the speaker said, “as the um, the, her father dies not too long after he remarried….” while the program transcribes that as " It’s fine. It’s just too sensitive to tell. She does die at 65….”

    In this example, the speaker said, “and after she got the telephone he began to pray” while the program transcribes that as “I feel like I’m going to fall. I feel like I’m going to fall, I feel like I’m going to fall….”

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      This one was wild:

      In an example they uncovered, a speaker said, “He, the boy, was going to, I’m not sure exactly, take the umbrella.”

      But the transcription software added: “He took a big piece of a cross, a teeny, small piece … I’m sure he didn’t have a terror knife so he killed a number of people.”

      From picking up and object to mass murder lmao. Not even close!

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      Wow, that’s bad. I thought it would be more of a “confusing a sentence for a similar sounding one” type thing but from the above and the article it’s just generating semi-believable text and sticking them into the transcriptions.