• squirrelwithnut@lemmy.world
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    Hurray another EV that isn’t a sedan, with a stupid name, and is ugly too. Just what the market needs.

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      Tbf hatchbacks take up the same amount of space but have better cargo capacity. Best of both worlds. I love that I can toss my ebike and lots of camping gear in my tiny Bolt and take it camping. Not possible in a sedan.

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    First world countries will be scrambling to replace their high tech industries as China eats their lunch.

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    Ok mr reviewer

    Why don’t you tell us less about WV’s strategy a more about how the car is.

    Does it spy on you? What kind of EULA will I need to agree to? Does it have car play/android auto? Does it have a 4G antenna to connect to VW servers even if I don’t enable the feature? Does it have an app? In what ways is VW going to try to get subscription money from me? How much does servicing cost? How much will a set of brake pads cost? Does VW support 3rd party repair shops? Does VW try to lockdown parts and forbid 3rd party repairs? Can it be remotely disabled? By me, by VW, by law enforcement? What happens when the battery needs replacing? What is the visibility like? If it horrible does it have obstable detection?

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      It’s a concept car; none of those things are actually known or knowable yet.

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        Ehhh I think it is. You should pretty much expect all of those things from any new car.

        Consumers have spoken and they don’t care about privacy, reliability or repairability.

        Let me go ahead and answer all these questions right now for all the downvoters:

        Does it spy on you?

        Yes. Like every other VW.

        What kind of EULA will I need to agree to?

        All the EULAs. Same as any other VW.

        Does it have car play/android auto?

        Yes. Like every other VW.

        Does it have a 4G antenna to connect to VW servers even if I don’t enable the feature?

        Yes. Like every other VW.

        Does it have an app?

        Yes. Like every other VW.

        In what ways is VW going to try to get subscription money from me?

        VW Flex, like every other VW.

        How much does servicing cost?

        Depends on what your local dealership charges, they are franchises.

        How much will a set of brake pads cost?

        Depends on what your local dealership charges, they are franchises.

        Does VW support 3rd party repair shops?

        No.

        Does VW try to lockdown parts and forbid 3rd party repairs?

        No.

        Can it be remotely disabled? By me, by VW, by law enforcement?

        Yes.

        What happens when the battery needs replacing?

        You…replace it?

        What is the visibility like?

        Fine.

        If it horrible does it have obstable detection?

        Yes. Like every other VW.

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          Concept cars are, by definition, not actually finished. Nobody will be able to buy the car that was being shown at the car show. The car that will be on sale in 2-3 years will be a thematically similar but fundamentally different creature.

          Things like the onboard computer software/hardware/data sharing model won’t be defined yet. VW’s first party servicing costs or the price of replacement brake pads are not defined yet. It’ll be a job for a future car journalist to report on all those things once it’s actually defined.

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            Yes I understand what a concept car is. That changes nothing about my comment because it wasn’t about this specific car.

            Things like the onboard computer software/hardware/data sharing model won’t be defined yet.

            Yes it is. It will use the same software and data sharing model as every other VW. They’re not going to create entirely new ones just for this vehicle.

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              They’re not going to create entirely new ones just for this vehicle.

              If you read the article (I know, controversial) you’ll see that that’s exactly what they’re suggesting they’re doing, yes.

              Personally I wouldn’t hold my breath that it’ll be better, but it is going to be completely different to their current software stack.

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                  VW says the production version of the ID. EVERY1 will be the company’s first vehicle to feature a new “powerful” software architecture that promises over-the-air updates. (Software has proven to be a bit of a pain for VW, with bugs and infrequent updates plaguing its ID family of vehicles for years.)

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              They might but only if they’re building something new for their entire range.

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          How do you know? What car would somebody buy if they cared about those things? There are no choices. There is not enough competition to have enough choices.

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            What car would somebody buy if they cared about those things? There are no choices

            Because at one time there was a choice.

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          A lot of that isn’t known until nearly the last minute. Especially any of the hard metrics like mp/kwh, range, and especially any infotainment specifics.

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            There’s nothing on that list that will be unique to this vehicle.

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      The car he’s reviewing does not exist. He has some technical specs and a few renders to review.

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      Does it spy on you?

      All new cars do and this one doesn’t even hide it, it’s called “id everyone”.

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      Review what? It’s a concept. This is basically an ad. lol

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      Funny how you’re mostly asking questions that no real human cares about when shopping for car…

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    Is it just me or is that the worst name for a car in the history of the automobile?

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      It’s not great but ‘bad car names’ is a whole genre, one that vw in particular excels at. These are the guys that brought you the “Tiguan”. Look it up, that’s not some fancy Spanish word or something, they literally just jammed the words “tiger” and “iguana” together and thought that it’d be the perfect name for their new mom-car.

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        To be fair Tiguan when phonetically translated into Chinese is 踢館, which means “going to someone else’s house and kicking the shit out of them” which is kind of fire.

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      Mazda’s Laputa translates to “the bitch” in Spanish.

      There’s also Ford’s Probe…

      But yeah ID.EVERY1 is a mediocre name.

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      Beetle EV

      The Karmann Ghia EV conversions are stunning. Go see the most gorgeous thing VW ever made do 0-60 in 3 seconds.

      So, as someone who drove three different classic beetles in the past, you know the KG is still my vote.

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    There are already affordable EVs in Europe, as an example the Dacia Spring which has the same 230km autonomy and even lower price (18-19.000€ retail final price to consumer in Portugal which has high taxes on new vehicles).

    Not as snazzy looking though, that’s what’s really important! /s

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      Not as snazzy looking though

      I doubt the production version will look that snazzy, I bet it’ll end up being much taller and look more like this: 1000004894

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          I really don’t mind it, having driven a Tesla for a year it wasn’t bad at all.

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            Well I drive a heavily touch-screenified car, and I hate it. Have had the damn thing for almost a year but I still get nervous when I have to adjust the A/C.

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              Understandable, most car companies have garbage software (the Yaris I drive now included). Tesla is just leagues ahead at this point and I hope VW is gonna improve a lot looking at their mockups

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          Dacia is a small Romanian brand with a single plant, so learning that some are rebranded Renaults from China is quite surprising.

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            It might also surprise you to learn that Dacia is actually a large French conglomerate.

            They’ve been fully owned by Renault for more than two decades.

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    The Volvo EX30 looks good as well but its super plastic and low quality inside. This car will probably follow the same pattern since they need make money on these ones too.

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    It’d be a decent deal now, but this launches in 2027, by which point this would be underwhelming.

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    They’ve gone out of their way to avoid showing the hatch opened. From the pictures they DO have there, it appears the hatch opening area is borderline useless. My question is WHY?

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    You can tell it’s a concept that isn’t in production because it has big wheels with thin tires and no tire-to-fender gap.

    Concept images are just for hype.

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    There are currently no plans to ship this (or the slightly larger longer range model) in the US. 🙄

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      Why would you ship a small car to a country in love with the biggest streetpanzers?