Funny if true.

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    10 months ago

    Why would State Capitalists allow discussions about actual communism? God forbid he people get it into their head to form trade unions…

    • GarbageShoot [he/him]@hexbear.net
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      10 months ago

      I can’t quite tell if this is a parody, the trade union bit makes it seem sincere, but the self-importance to think that lemmy is too left for China to allow is just amazing.

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      10 months ago

      To be fair, .ml bans you pretty quickly for discussing anything outside of a pretty narrow stripe of Marxist Leninist orthodoxy as well.

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        10 months ago

        I don’t consider myself a Marxist, Leninist, or communist of any stripe and haven’t had a problem so far. I’m far enough left that I refuse to call myself a liberal, but I suspect the folks who consider themselves Marxists probably think I’m too far right to self-identify as a leftist. (Although I do.)

        Shitload of downvotes a time or two, but that’s about it. I just wanted to be on a Lemmy instance that was honoring the fedipact, and preferred it to have an instance ethos to the left of mine rather than to the right of it.

        I like it here.

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            10 months ago

            You believe in “russian disinformation assets”, like hell you are lmfao. Y’know what, let’s go for a walk.

            Russia may try, but it’ll never erase Ukraine nor the fact Ukraine made Russia.

            No, they’re not. Populism as a whole is a horrible political strategy which benefits only a few members of the political class.

            Because it takes away the puppet Russia has been building and nurturing this whole time.

            There’s an easy way to end this war: either kill Putin or have Putin resign.

            If by “core” you mean “civilized world”, yes.

            Your words; not mine. You are no Marxist. You are a western chauvinist, a genocidal settler, and so terminally, neoliberally treat-brained that I expect you to keel over after you’ve been fed chocolate.

            What a trail of receipts, my boi. There’s at least one of you every season.

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              10 months ago

              Honest question from a non-communist, based on your reply here. Does one need to support Putin to be a Marxist?

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                10 months ago

                In a word, no. In a few more words, support for Russia (not Putin, as historical materialists don’t subscribe to great man theory) is only a partial, temporary, tactical one, in the context of imperialist liberation. Russia is still a capitalist state, though, so it’s a two stage strategy: first liberate colonized bourgeois states from colonizer states, and second revolution within those liberated bourgeois states.

                Russia is an interesting case: it has already liberated itself from the post-Soviet “shock therapy” neocolonizers. This occurred during Putin’s administration, which is why he is especially hated by the US. So now the support for Russia is in the context of keeping the colonizers from recolonizing it, and supporting Russia to the extent that it helps other states liberate themselves. But Russia isn’t trying to “liberate” Ukraine, at least not all of Ukraine. It’s trying to resolve the genocidal attacks on the people of the Donbas, and it’s trying to resolve the imperialist military expansion at its border.