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      Idiocracy is a funny movie that I enjoy. However I’m disturbed by the number of people who say it’s a documentary, or a warning. That’s because the central premise of the movie (that humans breed wrong and if nothing is done, we’ll devolve and society will collapse) also happens to be the central premise of Eugenics.

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          Not at all how I see it. It’s not eugenics its education, well the lack there of, that made the world in idiocracy.

          • OwenEverbinde@lemmy.myserv.one
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            27 days ago

            The movie maybe. But that intro was basically divorced from the rest of the movie.

            The intro suggested that stupid people having kids was the reason humanity started evolving backward. It invoked natural selection and “survival of the fittest.”

            The intro even labeled the low birth rate couple and high birthrate couple with IQ scores to illustrate this point.

            You argue that that the movie attributes the stupidity of its world to societal shifts. It does. It does a great job laying out a progression from late stage capitalism to idiocracy.

            But that just further highlights how unnecessary that intro was. The intro attributed the stupidity to something entirely different.

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              27 days ago

              Just watched the intro. I’m not really on board with the eugenics angle even after watching it. It’s more social darwinism than eugenics.

              Eugenicists as ive always thought of it is an intended or active pursuit of creating “better” humans(or whatever species).

              One factor I see being a difference between natural selection and unnatural selection. Unnatural selection being eugenics, and natural selection being what a result of an environment having an effect on the evolution of a species.

              The intro Primarily sets a path of one group having more children than the other group and i will concede it the intelligent couple having problems having kids misrepresents the rest of the movie while still giving the audience a vehicle to how the future they wanted to craft could happen. And it also is meant to be entertainment not just exposition.

              Would be very interested in an in depth response from Mike Judge and the rest of the filmakers. Would be an interesting use of AI/Deepfake to redo the intro if it actually wasnt intended to invoke a eugenic view of the future

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    28 days ago

    I find it inconceivable that no one has mentioned ‘The Princess Bride’ yet.

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    28 days ago

    I always say everyone should see requiem for a dream, but no one should watch it. That film does more for stopping drug abuse than any government program ever did.

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    27 days ago

    These are not feel good movies at all but I think really send important messages. Not for kids, but at 16+ would be good. There’s very important takeaway messages in both.

    Grave of the Fireflies

    Requiem for a Dream

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        26 days ago

        I think that stuff (those in power manipulating public opinion for their own ends by whatever means necessary) has always happened, but the access to and use of technology has definitely upped the game significantly, so yeah, I agree.

        Edit to add: I watched it for the first time in my teens, and I think it had a deep impact on how I view politics and the media, and the relationship between them.

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    Many good ones were already mentioned

    But from memory:

    • The snatch
    • The big Lebowsky
    • Clerks
    • American Psycho
    • 2001 a space odissey
    • Blade Runner (possibly the directors cut)
    • Apocalypse now (possibly the redux version)
    • Full metal jacket
    • The godfather (first 2 movies, the rest is not as good)
    • Fight club
    • Alien
    • The Truman show
    • In the mouth of madness
    • They live
    • The terminator (first 2)
    • Animal house
    • the dollar trilogy from Sergio Leone
    • Once upon a time in America
    • pulp fiction
    • reservoir dogs