I now think of Tankies as being Alt-Left, just as modern conservatives are Alt-Right. Both are extremists, both are okay to use violent upheaval of society to get their way, both routinely ignore actual facts in favor or alternative ones (bOtH sIdEs SaMe), both are nearly incapable of having any kind of normal conversation without dragging politics into it (just look at any “meme” or “comics” community, especially just after Luigi), both have next to if not fully zero consideration for the other part in any conversation, both use nearly identical methods like “control the conversation” and “gish gallop” and “the card says moops” (from Innuendo Studios’ The Alt Right Playbook series, but I notice that the tactics at least apply equally well to the Alt-Left) and so on.
Once you see it… you can’t really unsee those similarities. But they aren’t quite exactly the same, bc while they both shill for Russia, they use different talking points. So… there’s that, for whatever that might be worth (very little imho).
Alt left wants to violently overthrow the tyrants preventing us from having viable public services and having a fair society.
Alt right wants an ethnostate.
Alt right spends hundreds of millions a year astroturfing social media to convince people that authoritarianism isn’t an inherently right wing ideology.
I used the word “similarities” rather than “identicalities” for a reason, and not only bc the latter is not a word!:-P
Although take a look at how much “freedom” is available on places such as Reddit, vs. on lemmy.ml, and from the results you can form your own opinion.
For myself though, I think it laughable to consider how China or Russia or North Korea offers more “freedom” (to be sent to war against Ukraine more like it!?) than the capitalist empires of the West. Even a stopped watch is correct twice a day, but the enemy of my enemy is not always my friend.
I now think of Tankies as being Alt-Left, just as modern conservatives are Alt-Right. Both are extremists, both are okay to use violent upheaval of society to get their way, both routinely ignore actual facts in favor or alternative ones (bOtH sIdEs SaMe), both are nearly incapable of having any kind of normal conversation without dragging politics into it (just look at any “meme” or “comics” community, especially just after Luigi), both have next to if not fully zero consideration for the other part in any conversation, both use nearly identical methods like “control the conversation” and “gish gallop” and “the card says moops” (from Innuendo Studios’ The Alt Right Playbook series, but I notice that the tactics at least apply equally well to the Alt-Left) and so on.
Once you see it… you can’t really unsee those similarities. But they aren’t quite exactly the same, bc while they both shill for Russia, they use different talking points. So… there’s that, for whatever that might be worth (very little imho).
Alt left wants to violently overthrow the tyrants preventing us from having viable public services and having a fair society.
Alt right wants an ethnostate.
Alt right spends hundreds of millions a year astroturfing social media to convince people that authoritarianism isn’t an inherently right wing ideology.
I used the word “similarities” rather than “identicalities” for a reason, and not only bc the latter is not a word!:-P
Although take a look at how much “freedom” is available on places such as Reddit, vs. on lemmy.ml, and from the results you can form your own opinion.
For myself though, I think it laughable to consider how China or Russia or North Korea offers more “freedom” (to be sent to war against Ukraine more like it!?) than the capitalist empires of the West. Even a stopped watch is correct twice a day, but the enemy of my enemy is not always my friend.