• Kyrgizion@lemmy.world
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    13 days ago

    If it escapes under Trump’s leadership can we call it the trump virus? Please?

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    13 days ago

    The constant edging with bird flu mania is going to make people not pay attention when it actually pops off.

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      13 days ago

      The problem is that the CDC isn’t getting to say anything right now, so we can assume that the moment they get to talk about it, the stupidest people you know are going to go “woah this was really sudden! They clearly made it in a lab!”

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        13 days ago

        That’s actually a really good counter point that I hadn’t thought of.

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          13 days ago

          Thank you, I’ve spent a lot of time giving myself brain damage so I can understand the perspective of conservatives.

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            13 days ago

            Huff a lot of glue or paint, maybe ram a crayon or two in your brain. Then you might get close to understanding.

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      13 days ago

      This is it popping off. We’ve already lost a huge portion of chickens in the US. We’re seeing dozens of cases in humans. And it’s in cows too. The only reason it doesn’t feel like a big deal is because we as a nation aren’t doing anything about it yet, only individual farms are. Same way COVID went from “is this a big deal?” to “oh fuck shut everything down”.

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        The big event will be someone with regular human flu getting bird flu, giving the virus opportunities to swap DNA segments. If it gets the transmissibility of our standard influenza and the lethality of bird flu, it’ll be a rough six months to a year before we have vaccines for it as it rips through our population.

        Especially considering flu vaccines are made with eggs, and this disease is currently thoroughly decimating our egg producing livestock.

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          The lethality is 52%. If it rips through the population, we’re looking at total collapse well before the vaccine is available.

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            12 days ago

            Highly dependent on the degree to which it’s contagious. But you’re right, especially considering we’re looking at one of the worst flu seasons in more than a decade currently. If all flu cases were 50% lethal that’d be 10-15 million deaths.

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      13 days ago

      If we just stop testing it will go away like magic. Did you learn nothing from Covid?

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      The little boy who called bird flu, but I think the call here is that it is difficult to feel safe behind the idea that it does not cross the species barrier when you have bird flu in cows.

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        13 days ago

        Unfortunately people will just think “Hey I’ve seen this bird flu in the news and it didn’t seem bad.” Then they ignore all virologist recommendations and we have a second pandemic.

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          Too little information is as bad as too much, it is a difficult balance. The problem with information dissemination last time was not oversaturation but that people latched onto ridiculous conspiracy narratives and that derives from lack of basic education not too much news.

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        in the beginning yes, but as the virus mutates, the variant that spreads quicker will also be less deadly. like with covid too. not that it isn’t dangerous now, but it was far deadlier in the early stages.

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          12 days ago

          in a country that could start acting against this virus right now with RNA vaccine research has probably closed down all those facilities

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    13 days ago

    No coincidences, trump will always bring disease and ruin. You keep welcoming the fox back into the henhouse, America.

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      Between this and Gaza (and everything else), I really honestly don’t think we have seen a person in all of human history who checks more boxes of being the antichrist.

      Like fuck, he literally brings pestilence and disease with him.

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    The mask thing is going to be so funny again… I guess … ughhhhhhhhhhhh. Subscribe to the WHO if you haven’t already

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      13 days ago

      I’d be more than willing to build special warehouses for the unvaccinated manned by doctors and midwives with tons of knowledge about holistic medicine and essential oils, get them out of real hospitals

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      Yes, and I’ve heard people say “It’ll be OK; the strain that goes pandemic won’t be as lethal as the current strains.” There’s some truth in this, that extremely deadly viruses will tend to burn themselves out by killing their hosts so not spread so widely. So perhaps bird flu transmitted from person to person would not sustain the extremely high death rates this type of flu has shown in people in the past. But as the 1918 flu and even the COVID pandemic show, there’s a lot of wiggle room for a virus between utterly deadly and utterly harmless, and even something that’s far from the worst can still go pandemic and cause huge amounts of death, disruption and misery.

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    Maybe I’m late to the party, but do you think that the actual plan might be to kill as many of us as possible to weaken any potential uprising?

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      Ah, the classic baseless dummy conspiracy theory of governments murdering own people for a reason or another.

      Edit: typo it -> or

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        Oh man, my comment wasn’t totally serious but totally based on fear. I guess that’s exactly how conspiracies start. If my rhetorical-turned-accidental-theory turns out to be right, I’m gonna be super-bummed.

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      I think it’s human nature to “look for a reason” but … these engineered virus narratives have never set well with me. It implies that the only way a pandemic could happen is if some person created it; that’s incredibly self indulgent, “the only way man could die to nature is if man invented nature.”

      Viruses just happen; we’ve had a reprieve from major plagues and things and have been unusually healthy because vaccines and other advances in medicine allowed us to save many that would have otherwise died.

      The only parts humans are playing in our current health crises are: A) Increasing the number of unvaccinated people giving viruses once nearly killed off room to play again B) Increasing the temperature of the planet which has been demonstrated to increase mutation rates and may release lost viruses trapped in ice and permafrost C) Cutting down large swaths of the Amazon rainforests which may also harbor lost viruses

      In all cases, we’re not creating the problem directly, we’re just giving the advantage back to nature that research from recent centuries gave to us.

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        Shit, I didn’t mean to make it sound like I thought this virus was manufactured. Why would anyone need to manufacture a disease when you can just leave a brain-worm rapist to dismantle every safeguard until measles becomes an active issue again.

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      ah yes, uprisings famously never happen after many people died. They only ever happen when the population is prospering.

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        It’s only takes 3% of the population who want to actively over throw a government for it to happen. And if you reduce the population, it makes it easier to get to 3%

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        I don’t mean weaken like that. I mean thinning out potential armies. Like, literally reducing numbers.

        I was speaking out my ass and it was essentially some NWO bullshit. Then again, every accusation a confession…

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      Who’s plan? The ketamine addicts or the pants shitter?

      They aren’t smart enough to develop a disease, but they are stupid enough to think that if they don’t do anything about it, no one will notice (don’t test for covid and the numbers will go down)