I highly doubt the left will do anything uncivil. How can they win back the country? Is it too late?

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    How in the fuck.

    Like what drives a majority of Americans to vote for a demented toddler. It’s insane.

    As a kid I always wondered how on Earth did Hitler ever make anyone follow himself, how did those people not realise. Turns out a majority of people are just fucking morons.

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      Yep and the slow gutting of the education system isn’t making it any better.

      You have an entire generation coming of voting age who are rabid Trump supporters. They don’t care about policies or democracy or public institutions. They don’t care about healthcare, social securities, or the stability of the economy.

      They don’t care about any of the things that have been built up through generations. They lack critical thinking ability.

      The recipe works. If you make dumb kids they will vote for dumb people. It works so well that part of the future plan for a trump presidency is to get rid of the department of education. Solidifying the Republican party indefinitely.

      Without critical thinking and with mass media it’s so easy to say every problem that people deal with is because the “other side” made it so. Even if the other side has been doing everything possible to achieve the opposite.

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        Americans aren’t special. They’re just as vulnerable to fascism as anybody else.

        The MAGATs might as well be wearing brownshirts and saluting like Mussolini.

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        Blaming young people is up their with blaming immigrants and “gays” ect for [insert topic]. I would be very surprised if this was the case.

        I think it’s a little more nuanced.

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            You sure about that?

            You have an entire generation coming of voting age who are rabid Trump supporters.

            It goes on.

            Anecodtally (at this point, this is all these discussions are), I think that Apathy, fear campaigns or outright money and campaigns ect become powerful levers where voting is non-mandatory.

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      For all practical purposes, about 30% of people are unfeeling morons - basically psychopaths. That’s the number that consistently opposes abortion, for instance. Add to that all the dumbasses who don’t know any better (the undecideds on any extremely obvious moral issue), et voila. That’s how you get slavery, nationalism, genocide, theocracy, you name it.

      Unless people are willing to screen for psychopathy and remove it from the gene pool, the human species will keep fucking around until it finds out. Might be nuclear apocalypse or environmental collapse, but at this rate it’s inevitable.

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          “Oh no, we wouldn’t want the psychopaths with the broken brains not to exist. That’s eugenics.”

          You’re all fucking idiots.

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      The rise of the NSDAP has been studied quite a bit. Also, the psychological aspects are really interesting. Basically normal people can make all of this possible as long as the conditions are just right.

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      There are many leftists and minorities that have “voted strategically” time and time and time again only for things to get worse and worse.

      This kind of disenfranchisement leads to apathy and low turnout.

      We are told from a young age that our vote matters, and then when we are older we are told you can only vote for red fascist or blue fascist and many choose not to participate.

      There are more who did not vote than who voted for Trump. This is not what the majority wants, but with the system as it is, it is not possible for the majority to voice what they actually genuinely want and have a chance to get it.

      The votes do not have to be rigged at the ballot box for voting as a whole system to be rigged.

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      Non mandatory voting wouldnt help, being that its more susceptible to eroding a merit process from campaigns of fear or otherwise.