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einfach_orangensaft@sh.itjust.works to Science Memes@mander.xyzEnglish · 2 months ago

that about 1/1000 of your phones RF power output, and the distance is 384400km

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that about 1/1000 of your phones RF power output, and the distance is 384400km

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einfach_orangensaft@sh.itjust.works to Science Memes@mander.xyzEnglish · 2 months ago
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  • Yorick@sh.itjust.works
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    The magic of a clear line of sight and vacuum for a good ~384’300km!

    So should we do low power communications by using the moon as reflector dish?

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      Also, directional vs omnidirectional antennas.

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        This is the most important part.

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          And not encoding any data. Well a laser pulse is kind of datum.

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      There was a NSA program that listened to soviet messages by collecting the transmissions that bounced off the moon.

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        I gotta say, the moon’s really starting to sound like a fucking snitch.

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      Two thirds of a million kilometres under good conditions and at a precise angle to get a picture of goatse moontooth’d to my phone

      Welcome to 2025!

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      I am worried about 2000ms ping

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        That’s what the anti-tachyon modulation circuit is for, to change the time phase and remove most of that lag. Once they’re in sync, it’s literally real time!

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    the distance is 384400km

    That’s almost the distance between my bed and the kitchen before my first cup of coffee!

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    It’s easy, you just need a big antenna, low noise receiver (just cool it) for low bandwidth (keeps noise power low) and no interferers in the same frequency band.

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      Shrimple as that

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        It’s almost too easy

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      *directional antenna

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        Show me a non-directional antenna.

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          Omni-directional antennas?

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            Omnidirectional antennas attempt to radiate equally horizontally. An isotropic antenna radiates equally in all directions but is only theoretical. All antennas have some gain.

            That being said, there are some antennas that attempt to minimize that gain and be as non-directional as possible while other antennas attempt to maximize that gain and become as directional as possible.

        • 𝙲𝚑𝚊𝚒𝚛𝚖𝚊𝚗 𝙼𝚎𝚘𝚠@programming.dev
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          https://enterprisecontrol.co.uk/tci-product/non-directional-antennas/

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            Just because you call it non-directional doesn’t mean it is. They all have gain compared to a theoretical isotropic antenna.

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              And how is that relevant? Everybody knows they mean low gain antennas

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      That’s fair, though I think we also should thank the use of Travelling Wave Tubes (TWTs or ‘twits’). These little tubes of witchcraft amplify the transmission signal to make sure we can still hear, say, the Voyager 1 that’s currently over 15-billion miles away.

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      Perfect. Now put those on cell phones and make it fit in your pocket.

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        Technology always gets better with no regard to physical limits.

        (People who argue this unironically are a pet peeve of mine. Yes, there are limitations on what’s possible.)

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    My Bluetooth buds often get interference - technically 100 mW, distance from my head to a pocket.

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      technically 100 mW

      Technically a maximum of 100 mW, but realistically much lower than that.

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    I use about 800mW for my fpv drone and if you get a little bit away from yourself and go behind a tree or something you could lose video pretty easily

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      Wonder what the latency would be like trying to fly my 3.5" on the moon from earth

      Although I suppose the lack of atmosphere would be the bigger issue…

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        Think of the speeds you could fly at with no drag! I’m so bummed that the Grace Hopper drone didn’t get to fly after Intuitive Machines fluffed their second landing. That would have been awesome outreach from NASA.

        We want drones on the moon!

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    I bet the receiver that had noise figure low enough to detect that signal consumed more than 3nW while doing it.

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    To be fair, that’s an insignificant distance for light to travel.

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      Still takes at least 2 seconds for the round trip.

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        Well, according to my ex, even 30 or 90 seconds is an interval unworthy of consideration.

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