• Kronusdark@lemmy.world
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    7 days ago

    I think given the current political situation this is the right call. No one knows what the Russian government might compel otherwise innocent devs to do.

    That said, we (and I mean society, not any particular individual) should be mindful that we don’t slip into bigotry.

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      7 days ago

      I’ve worked side by side with RU devs who were both personable and damned competent. Never were their tech skills in doubt, and I retain quite a bit of respect for those individuals.

      I’d not do the same today explicitly because of the political and compliance implications. It’s unfortunate, but necessary.

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        6 days ago

        i wish there was more we could do to help russians topple their dictatorship

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        6 days ago

        They were removed from MAINTAINERS, which is what identifies the people responsible for maintaining a piece of code, a subsystem of Linux, not the credits, which is encoded in the git commit history.

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      7 days ago

      What current situation?

      1. Is so hard to believe Open Source should be open? If there were a malicious intent, others would have been able to detect it in no time… because it is ‘open’! If the open system works, it should not matter there are CIA or FSB, commies or libertarians “infiltrated” making the code.

      2. If those Russians had been in that position is because their contributions have been stellar, otherwise they would never have gotten there. Their contribution and effort has been robbed from them just because they mothers give them birth in the wrong coordinates.

      3. Linus is a god for many of us… with human traits though… His Finland, although historically robbed by Russia, achieved its highest splendor during the decades of neutrality, not by fiercely antagonizing one or the other power… same as Switzerland, Ireland, Austria and Singapore.

      4. All this started with a US law so he has to comply with. However, instead of those unhelpful comments, he should say that in open software it is unwarranted… not to mention countries can get sanctions for their actions, but not civilians that cannot choose where they are born.

      5. If we are to believe that Moscow is trying to put something into the kernel “undetected”… gosh, what an organization based on the US with a so pro-establishment leader may be doing so? For real, now I am starting having my doubts on the kernel!

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      7 days ago

      With that logic, the US contributes should be expelled too. We have more examples of US folks being served NSLs than Russians.

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      7 days ago

      Linux Fundarion is based in America. It needs to follow its rules and politics. I guess a lot of things will happen after this. As something so important for open technology like It , should be based in a more open, mor asvanced in laws and neutral territory.

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        7 days ago

        Linus is from Finland. Not hard to remember reasons for aversion to Russian propaganda for anyone raised near it.

        Blanketing the Linux Foundation as American based kind of sounds like you’re a Russian troll.

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          7 days ago

          You would think someone from Finland would know better that, when you are so close to a power you don’t like, the best way to prosper is by keeping neutrality,… look at Finland in the 60s-00s, Singapore, Austria… or you choose to pick the Ukrainian, Filipino and Cuban path…

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        7 days ago

        This is hardly the first time the core Linux code stack has been forked and independently developed. Seems like this is going to invite a Russia-specific development environment that just pulls in updates from the main branch and adds in Russia-internal development (which will likely then be copied by non-Russians and backloaded into the core Linux stack under someone else’s name, because why waste good dev work?)

        But the argument appears to be anyone with a Russian-sounding name is getting removed from the core development team, until they can prove to the American team that they aren’t… spooks, I guess? Also

        The driver code to which the dropped maintainers contributed remains in place.

        So this isn’t such a high security risk that the code is being pulled (presumably because its been vetted and appears beyond repute). This is purely a CYA move to eliminate veterans on the team because they were forthright about their identities.

        should be based in a more open, mor asvanced in laws and neutral territory.

        Its not clear how a policy of booting people based on their surnames accomplishes this.