One reason the Right keeps winning is that people on the Left keep acting like they are obliged to only vote for perfect candidates that they agree with 100% on everything.
The most successful Socialist politician in US history was Fiorella LaGuardia in New York City. He build a Fusion Party with the GOP and Communists. You think everyone who voted for him loved him?
I feel like “lets stop bombing children”, or “maybe people shouldn’t go bankrupt because of healthcare”, or “maybe the rich should pay their taxes”, or “stop backing a genocide”, or “we should probably get rid of torture facilities” are a far cry from “obliged to only vote for perfect candidates that they agree with 100% on everything.”
I’m all for voting for a candidate I don’t totally agree with, I do it every time. But lets not pretend that the Democrats are doing a good job of reaching out to their voter-base. There’s a reason their current polling is so low.
On the west coast. Most polls that I’ve seen show that those aren’t progressive values, they are the vaules that most people have. The Democrats just keep chosing unpopular positions, because they care more about their donors than voters.
Let me put it this way. Frederick Douglas wanted to work for an abolition candidate in 1860. Instead, he held his nose and voted for a moderate named Abe Lincoln, who absolutely did not want to free the slaves.
In WW2, monarchists and Communists in Nazi occupied countries put aside their differences because the Nazis were the greater threat.
There was an NYC Mayor who put it best. “If you agree with me 51% of the time, vote for me. If you agree with me 100% of the time, see a psychiatrist.”
One reason the Right keeps winning is that people on the Left keep acting like they are obliged to only vote for perfect candidates that they agree with 100% on everything.
The most successful Socialist politician in US history was Fiorella LaGuardia in New York City. He build a Fusion Party with the GOP and Communists. You think everyone who voted for him loved him?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiorello_La_Guardia
I feel like “lets stop bombing children”, or “maybe people shouldn’t go bankrupt because of healthcare”, or “maybe the rich should pay their taxes”, or “stop backing a genocide”, or “we should probably get rid of torture facilities” are a far cry from “obliged to only vote for perfect candidates that they agree with 100% on everything.”
I’m all for voting for a candidate I don’t totally agree with, I do it every time. But lets not pretend that the Democrats are doing a good job of reaching out to their voter-base. There’s a reason their current polling is so low.
Where do you live where the majority of the population is progressive?
People in my home town, New York City, have been watching Trump’s antics for decades. He got 20% of the vote.
Also, the election isn’t decided by the popular vote. Look at the electoral map.
On the west coast. Most polls that I’ve seen show that those aren’t progressive values, they are the vaules that most people have. The Democrats just keep chosing unpopular positions, because they care more about their donors than voters.
https://kbin.earth/m/politicalmemes@lemmy.world/t/1296922/-/comment/6555770
Are you trying to help me prove my point? Because you kind of helped me prove my point.
Yes. Eta: and what I said before.
Let me put it this way. Frederick Douglas wanted to work for an abolition candidate in 1860. Instead, he held his nose and voted for a moderate named Abe Lincoln, who absolutely did not want to free the slaves.
In WW2, monarchists and Communists in Nazi occupied countries put aside their differences because the Nazis were the greater threat.
There was an NYC Mayor who put it best. “If you agree with me 51% of the time, vote for me. If you agree with me 100% of the time, see a psychiatrist.”
And build/support third party candidacy on the side.