• hamsda@lemm.ee
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    20 hours ago

    These are the occasions I wish death penalty was a thing, especially for those cases where the idiots have been caught in the act - there are better things to do with my tax money than making sure they have a place to live in and some nice good meals to go with it.

    I do understand how you feel about that and I do kinda feel the same, BUT … you always have to assure that every last person has rights and gets acceptable treatment, even the ones who seemingly have no soul. Because if there’s ever a category of people without rights, any government would have an easy way to get rid of eveyone critizing them.

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      15 hours ago

      Thats bullshit. Not all people deserve to be treated as people. Some are just garbage. That includes serial killers and ones mentioned in this article

      • hamsda@lemm.ee
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        15 hours ago

        And then you critize the government, get a sham trial and are marked for your crime as some kind of “garbage person” without rights. Afterwards, execution or locking away and maybe throw in some torture for the fun of it. This is reality already. It just hasn’t been done to you.

        You can feel about it however you want, I may even feel the same with some people, but as an adult, we have to use logic.

        The point is, there must never be an official group of people without rights you can just “get rid of” im some way. This limit is not for the punished, it exists to shield the innocent.

    • 4shtonButcher@discuss.tchncs.de
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      17 hours ago

      There’s this one Nazi CEO that I hope we can agree either has no soul or at least one that we could do without. Yet we’re not killing him.

      Killing people is wrong and while there may be factors that make it seem more warranted, nothing will ever make it right.

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        13 hours ago

        nothing will ever make it right.

        Strongly disagree. If someone had killed Musk a year ago, the world would be a different place today. A better place, I think.

        If someone had killed Trump ten years ago, how many COVID deaths would be avoided? How much damage to our economy would not have happened? How many hungry people across the world would still have food from a USAID shipment?

        There are plenty of times it would be right to kill people. But who can we trust to make that decision? I’m confident I’m right, but I would not want to have to do it.