I for one am going through quite a culture shock. I always assumed the nature of FOSS software made it immune to be confined within the policies of nations; I guess if one day the government of USA starts to think that its a security concers for china to use and contribute to core opensource software created by its citizens or based in their boundaries, they might strongarm FOSS communities and projects to make their software exclude them in someway or worse declare GPL software a threat to national security.

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    Yes. There is an extremely arbitrary distinction made between the USA and Russia. Both are known for injecting spyware. China is somehow still okay? It makes no sense.

    Not to mention the elephant in the room by not banning another certain country actively committing war crimes.

    All software should be safety checked. Where the maintainer is from should be irrelevant.

    But the most weird aspect is the timing. Why now and not a few years ago?

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      China is somehow still okay?

      China is too important a supplier to the West. Sanctions against them would lead to retaliatory sanctions against the West from China which would be economically devastating.

      Obviously they are just as dangerous and as actively involved is espionage as the other world players, but they hold too many cards to risk escalation. The West is also too important to their economy to escalate beyond war games. At least - we all hope so.

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      There is an extremely arbitrary distinction made between the USA and Russia.

      Your world view seems to be highly influenced by propaganda. It’s very easy to draw a distinction between these two countries. Let me start with an easy one:

      Russia is a dictatorship, the US is a democracy.

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        Which one is killing us faster? I’m pretty sure it’s the USA. Nice that you get to live in a democracy I guess but that doesn’t mean a damn thing to someone living outside the USA and being exploited and abused by it.

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          I’m in Sweden. The idea that the US is somehow more of a danger to us than Russia is laughable.

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            Russia invading is a statistical risk. The USA (as the leading avatar of capital) exploiting, degrading, and destroying the commons we need to survive is an unavoidable certainty. Russia and Sweden are also doing those things, but on a significantly lesser scale.

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                That’s a lot of cover… I’ve learned so far that Russia is responsible for 4% of the world’s CO_2 emissions, and that emissions in Russia and Ukraine have decreased fastest of all countries since 1990. That the USA is responsible for 28% of all emissions that have accumulated since the Industrial revolution, and that Russia has emitted 11%. Is there something specific you would like me to learn about?

                In large part, it’s simply a matter of scale and wealth concentration. If Canada was as large and wealthy as the USA, we’d probably all be cooked by now.

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                  Climate change is not a risk to human survival. Please study the WG2 parts for the possible risks we’re facing depending on when and how much action we take.

                  You’re correct in that large parts of Russia don’t have indoor toilets and proper sanitation. Not sure that’s a positive.

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        US is a democracy

        Lmfao

        Modern Russia is a shitty liberal “democracy” just as incompetent as the US’s

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            1. You’re replying to someone from db0

            2. Lemmy.ml is not the only place that believes the US isn’t a democracy.

            3. The US is an oligarchy. It’s one of the things agreed by philosophers, including my teacher. The current controversy in the left surrounding the elections obviously proves this point.

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              1. Oops. That’s… interesting.
              2. Maybe, but we at least get to select which oligarchs we prefer. In Russia, you select from Putin, Pootin, and Puteen.