Hey. Cmon man, every instance has its agendas and bad apples. Some spread pro-US and anti-Russia/China rhetoric, others are flipped.
Yes, a minority of the mods are fucked in some of their values and beliefs but that’s true of any instance, and most of the time it’s not an issue.
We all harbour our strange 1% ideas that’s separate us from the norm, but that’s the beauty of the lemmyverse that you can find a server where that’s better represented.
Too much? Go to an instance where it’s not and chill there for a bit.
The general user base is off putting and creates a shit experience. The fediverse will unfortunately never grow beyond a niche platform. It’s a great idea, it’s too bad so many of the people are such shit. Even in this thread another user calmly pointed out what non technical users care about and sure enough, someone with their head so far up their ass they probably haven’t been able to walk outside in weeks is blasting off while smelling their own farts because it’s so inconceivable that some portions of the population may not be as technical or similarly vested in things as they are.
Something that could be fixed if creative types and fun people would just flood the place already. The place is being held hostage by social misers and digital HOA Karens.
They could outnumber and shout down the existing user base in a day. The number of active users in the fediverse is quite small. A tiny number of toxic people have killed the open social web for the next decade.
I am! But I left 4-5 other instances before finally settling. Blahaj especially actually welcomed HB at one point because “trans solidarity”, which opened the door to mass harassment. …again. I was so absolutely disappointed because I was like “hey…don’t” and was basically told off.
“Oh you can block them if you don’t like it! It’s up to the individual!” I’m sure that’s fine if you’re tough & completely mentally stable, but these people genuinely triggered my PTSD, which had not been a thing that had happened to me in years. It left me and my faith in this whole thing very very shaken.
That aside, I think sopuli only has ML unblocked because it has such large tech communities.
I really really really loved Beehaw, too, but after their talk about moving away from Lemmy, I scrambled to find another home.
An average user is not going to want to continually move around to keep themselves sane & safe.
Not the worst in people, but I agree that it incentives undesirable behavior.
I’ve thought and read about this a bit. I don’t have the answers, but I think the lack of willingness and desire to experiment is damaging to the social experience.
People change. Communities change. Culture changes. Social systems ought to adapt as the need arises.
Yet, here we are, painting over mold and nailing pieces of a system made a decade over that was toxic then, is toxic now, and will likely be toxic tomorrow. How would that ever work? We’re not special. We’re just another group ready to slip in the same slopes as the previous one.
Should we disable downvotes? Instances doing this never hear the end of it. Should votes be public to all? Dev thread brigaded. C’mon, let’s think together, are we actually gonna be reddit, but federated, forever? Surely that’s not what you want—Oh. Ohh. Well, my bad, then.
Easy to forget we all have our own wants, needs, and priorities. I’m sure I was the bad part of someone else’s experience, just doing what I thought was best. Still, I’m… getting tired, of Reddit 2. I’m not sure it’s possible to make it much better. It’s all too entrenched.
Gonna put this out there: the fediverse is vastly depressing and not very fun. Lacks creative-types, too.
I see why people would choose the alternative.
And full of propaganda, especially from Lemmy.ml
Not surprising to me that its faltering, but very disappointing
Like Twitter and Meta aren’t
Twitter and Meta are corporate social media, but the Fediverse has a chance to be something entirely different
And organizations, state and private, will attack it because of that chance.
Yeah. They’ll also use it to spread their disinformation/marketing etc.
The combined annual budget of all Fediverse instances for addressing the problem isn’t enough to buy a pack of gum
Hey. Cmon man, every instance has its agendas and bad apples. Some spread pro-US and anti-Russia/China rhetoric, others are flipped.
Yes, a minority of the mods are fucked in some of their values and beliefs but that’s true of any instance, and most of the time it’s not an issue.
We all harbour our strange 1% ideas that’s separate us from the norm, but that’s the beauty of the lemmyverse that you can find a server where that’s better represented.
Too much? Go to an instance where it’s not and chill there for a bit.
The general user base is off putting and creates a shit experience. The fediverse will unfortunately never grow beyond a niche platform. It’s a great idea, it’s too bad so many of the people are such shit. Even in this thread another user calmly pointed out what non technical users care about and sure enough, someone with their head so far up their ass they probably haven’t been able to walk outside in weeks is blasting off while smelling their own farts because it’s so inconceivable that some portions of the population may not be as technical or similarly vested in things as they are.
Bingo.
Only place I’ve had folks follow me around to harass me, too. It’s disturbing.
Press block?
I had some loser follow all my comments and downvote them for a couple weeks but that’s all they could do in their impotent babyrage.
Indeed, quite unfortunate
Something that could be fixed if creative types and fun people would just flood the place already. The place is being held hostage by social misers and digital HOA Karens.
They will not come here because there’s an absolute fuckton of hostility.
My favorite woman-centric community went dark due to lack of moderation. Mods left because it was so damn hostile.
The t×nkie problem is also pretty bad.
Federated spaces will forever be niche spaces, because of all of this. Say “good” all you want, but it’d be great to have mass adoption.
They could outnumber and shout down the existing user base in a day. The number of active users in the fediverse is quite small. A tiny number of toxic people have killed the open social web for the next decade.
Unfortunately the loud obnoxious ones ruin it for everyone else.
Aren’t you okay on sopuli.xyz? I now use lemmy.cafe as my main, they block ml, hexbear and grad
I am! But I left 4-5 other instances before finally settling. Blahaj especially actually welcomed HB at one point because “trans solidarity”, which opened the door to mass harassment. …again. I was so absolutely disappointed because I was like “hey…don’t” and was basically told off.
“Oh you can block them if you don’t like it! It’s up to the individual!” I’m sure that’s fine if you’re tough & completely mentally stable, but these people genuinely triggered my PTSD, which had not been a thing that had happened to me in years. It left me and my faith in this whole thing very very shaken.
That aside, I think sopuli only has ML unblocked because it has such large tech communities.
I really really really loved Beehaw, too, but after their talk about moving away from Lemmy, I scrambled to find another home.
An average user is not going to want to continually move around to keep themselves sane & safe.
Indeed, I think I’ll just recommend lemmy.cafe as the safe recommendation from now on
My Lemmy experience is kinda shit, but Mastodon is alright
i’ve come to believe that something in reddit’s design with the upvotes and the downvotes brings out the worst in people
Not the worst in people, but I agree that it incentives undesirable behavior.
I’ve thought and read about this a bit. I don’t have the answers, but I think the lack of willingness and desire to experiment is damaging to the social experience.
People change. Communities change. Culture changes. Social systems ought to adapt as the need arises.
Yet, here we are, painting over mold and nailing pieces of a system made a decade over that was toxic then, is toxic now, and will likely be toxic tomorrow. How would that ever work? We’re not special. We’re just another group ready to slip in the same slopes as the previous one.
Should we disable downvotes? Instances doing this never hear the end of it. Should votes be public to all? Dev thread brigaded. C’mon, let’s think together, are we actually gonna be reddit, but federated, forever? Surely that’s not what you want—Oh. Ohh. Well, my bad, then.
Easy to forget we all have our own wants, needs, and priorities. I’m sure I was the bad part of someone else’s experience, just doing what I thought was best. Still, I’m… getting tired, of Reddit 2. I’m not sure it’s possible to make it much better. It’s all too entrenched.
where are you primarily getting your fediverse access, because that’s not my experience at all
Hey, I’m depressive and not very fun, lack creativity too.
I’m not disagreeing, just voicing my well, fuck you too over here.
(But bring some people over, post lemmy links on that skytwatter before it turns toxic)
Oh, I don’t mind depressive, not-so-fun, lacking creativity people! They’re cool! I do mind pointedly depressing and hostile content.
AI art posts? Put it in the trash. Hopeless memes? No thanks. Constant politic-ing pretending to be sincere but it’s actually t×nkie pushing? Nope.
I’ll miss you when you’re gone… hope you find a comfortable place that tailors to your specific wants.