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Any awful.systems sub may be subsneered in this subthread, techtakes or no.

If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cutā€™nā€™paste it into its own post ā€” thereā€™s no quota for posting and the bar really isnā€™t that high.

The post Xitter web has spawned soo many ā€œesotericā€ right wing freaks, but thereā€™s no appropriate sneer-space for them. Iā€™m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged ā€œculture criticsā€ who write about everything but understand nothing. Iā€™m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. Theyā€™re inescapable at this point, yet I donā€™t see them mocked (as much as they should be)

Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldnā€™t be surgeons because they didnā€™t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I canā€™t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

Last weekā€™s thread

(Semi-obligatory thanks to @dgerard for starting this)

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    Was salivating all weekend waiting for this to drop, from Subbarao Kambhampatiā€™s group:

    Ladies and gentlemen, we have achieved block stacking abilities. It is a straight shot from here to cold fusion! ā€¦ unfortunately, there is a minor caveat:

    Looks like performance drops like a rock as number of steps required increasesā€¦

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      2 months ago

      correct me if Iā€™m reading this wrong ā€” the results are that LLMs are much, much worse than classical AI at planning block placement for SHRDLU? that seems pretty damning

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        2 months ago

        Yes, the classical algo achieves perfect accuracy and is way faster. There is also a table that shows the cost of running o1 is enormous. Like comically bad. Boil a small ocean bad. Weā€™ll just 10x the size and it will achieve 15 steps inshallah.

        Imo, this is like the same behavior we see on math problems. More steps it takes, the higher the chance it just decoheres completely. I canā€™t see any reason why this type of thing would just ā€œclickā€ for the models if they are also unable to do multiplication.

        I mean this just reeks of pure hopium from OAI and co that things will magykly work out. (But the newer model is clearly better^{tm}! I still donā€™t see any indication that one day that chart is just going to be 100s across the board.)