• masterspace@lemmy.ca
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    3 days ago

    VSCode & VSCodium are also free for commercial use.

    Why learn an IDE you won’t use anywhere else?

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      1 day ago

      Jetbrains licenses are like £100 a year. What commercial project isn’t able to cover that cost.

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        19 hours ago

        I’m just hopping the price won’t rise in return.

        Yet I’m not going back to eclipse.

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          17 hours ago

          They give incremental discounts each time you renew so even if the price increases you’ll probably find you’re spending less each time.

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            7 hours ago

            I’ve been on the lower price forever as I had a licence from before the switch.

            It’s already expensive. And having a comercial option that is affordable for normal people rather than $$$ entreprise would be good. Quitte a few paying of their own because their entreprise won’t.

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      3 days ago

      Why would you use a library or framework when you can code everything from scratch? It probably depends on how good the VSCode extension is vs how bad the IDE is.

      For the languages I have tried (mostly GoLang plus a bit of Terraform/Terragrunt), VSCode plugins can do code highlighting, can highlight syntax and lint errors, can navigate to a methods implementation, the auto-complete seems to pick random words from the code base, and can find the callers for a method. It is good enough for every day use.

      IDEs I have used (Eclipse for Java, PyCharm, InteliJ for Kotlin) offer more. They all have starter templates for common file types. The auto-complete is much more syntax aware and can sometimes guess what variables I intend to pass in as arguments. There is refactoring which can correctly find other usages of a variable and can make trivial code rewrites. There are generators for boilerplate methods. They all have a built in graphical debugger and a test runner.

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      3 days ago

      I am kind of using intellij ideas for everything. They are just so much better.

      I don’t think I would want to work for an employer that is too cheap for an IDE license

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        2 days ago

        It’s not about cheapness, it’s about consistency.

        You wanna set up different dev environments and process for every single language you or someone from your team might use? Oh we need documentation and a license for IDEA when we’re doing Java work, and PyCharm when we’re doing Python work, and WebStorm when we’re doing JavaScript work, or we just all use VSCode for everything.

        I’ve worked on Java teams, Python Teams, JavaScript Teams, C# teams, and quite frankly, I’ve seen no major benefit to a dedicated IDE for that language vs just configuring VSCode plugins and CLI scripts.

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          2 days ago

          We just have the ultimate license and can use all of the intellij IDEs, but you also can do everything with IDEA and some plugins. And I’m that car you still have the experience of a real IDE and not just a code editor.

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        3 days ago

        They’re really not. As much as I hate commercial licensing for any dev tools, if you want to talk about superior there’s nothing quite as good as Visual Studio (not code) on Windows.