• BMTea@lemmy.world
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    “I’ve definitely learned that gender classifiers are an unreliable and flawed technology, especially when it comes to trans people’s gender expression,” Ada Ada Ada said. “I regularly see my algorithmic gender swing back and forth from week to week.

    Says the person changing themselves week to week to fit different classifications?

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      Precisely.

      Gender isn’t binary, there is no such thing as a male or female nipple. That distinction is something that Humans made up.

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        To the extent that men can lactate! It’s one of the possible side effects of risperdal, which I have to be aware of because I give it fairly regularly. It’s all the same structures it’s just a matter of the hormone signals they’re getting.

      • 1984@lemmy.today
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        I don’t understand this. We have two genders, how is it not binary and how is it made up? Honest question.

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          Biological sex != gender. There’s not even 2 classes of biological sex. There are men born with biological female organs and women born with biologically men’s organs. We all as humans do share common organs, one of which happens to be the nipple.

          Regardless of what your actual biological sex is a gender is simply a social construct used to identify someone. A person who is “non-binary” feels that their gender does not conform to what you would typically expect of either male or female based on appearances or behavior.

          • 1984@lemmy.today
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            Sure but there are two major biological sexes. I can understand how gender can be defined as something else though.

            Non-binary can decide what gender they feel like.

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              Anyone can decide what gender they feel like. Most people identify with one of the major genders, but many people don’t for multiple possible biological reasons. Nobody is in good faith identifying as a gender they don’t actually feel like.

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                Sure. If you define the word gender as identifying what you feel like, then it makes sense from that perspective. If I felt like my gender is someone who feels like a cat, that would be my gender then.

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                  I gave you the benefit of the doubt that you had a genuine question, but I now feel that was a mistake.

                  • 1984@lemmy.today
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                    It was a genuine question, and I listened to your opinion. My own opinion differs from your own. This happens sometimes in conversations. To me, that doesn’t mean that we need to leave the discussion or downvote eachother. :)

                    The thing is, these conversations usually go the same way. People like yourself try to step in and guide people who ask questions. And if they don’t 100% share your own opinion, then you feel it’s a waste of time. And also you think you know me. I must be a troll. Right?

                    It’s a bit funny, you have to admit. Online discussions are not sniper battles. Or they shouldn’t be.

                    Maybe I have a different point of view on this because of my own upbringing and my own experiences. Seems pretty likely, no? And maybe one comment online will not change all of that in an instant. Also makes sense, no?

                    So just relax… We don’t have to fight online. I promise.

        • BMTea@lemmy.world
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          Their argument is that “gender is just a social construct”, without acknowledging that some of the most paramount aspects of human existence are “social constructs” (i.e language) and that gender is one of them. And without addressing why sexual taboos (like public nudity) are gendered - to them its a form of irrational injustice. But expore the social ramifications -through real and hypothetical examples- and you quickly find that it is indeed rational to treat bodies different according to their gender, and that human social psychology does have strong roots in human phsyiognamy.

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            From the person I talked to above, they are using gender to describe how they feel about who they are. So maybe it’s just a word difference.

            I’m very downvoted for being in this thread though and so are you. It’s a bit funny.

            A mod deleted my comment it seems.

            Anyway, guess I leave this strange thread and leave people here with their beliefs.

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          Poster below gave you all the answer you’d ever need on this question you beg… If you have any integrity, add a note to your original comment to clarify that you were mistaken in your initial assumption and why.

          But, doesn’t seem likely that you will.

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      The only thing changed between photos is clothing and pose. Is that gender? Well maybe it is, but it’s useless for classification.

      • 1984@lemmy.today
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        If it’s one thing I learned from the thread, it’s that the word gender can be anything at all.