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Friendica is compatible with mastodon’s api, so you can use the mastodon app. That’s the only way i think of on iOS :/

You can also use the website as a PWA, safari has partial PWA support

That’s generally how all services start out, though. It sucks, but you can’t just wait for a platform to get big, you have to actually use it, you have to be the change you want to see.

A big advantage of federation too is that all platforms can interact with eachother; a user on mastodon can interact with this post on lemmy, an iceshrimp user can interact with users on bonfire; etc etc. Platforms on the fediverse have the advantage of not needing to start from scratch.

And, there is nothing stopping them from using facebook alongside friendica, i use redlib when lemmy doesn’t have a community i’m interested in, for example (although i definitely main on lemmy). we don’t have to completely stop from using a platform, both is fine :)

That’s what they’re doing, though? They’re leaving facebook, and looking for an corpoless alternative.

Friendica is probably the best choice. It’s the most popular with the most servers and users, and is explicitly designed to be like facebook, and uses Activitypub.

Pleroma, judging from the FAQ; strives to be more like twitter. And as for diaspora, it uses its own protocol, so i’m not sure if it can federate with software that uses activitypub.

I see someone got banned by him 😂

Yep, codeberg is great for personal/hobby or small projects, but beyond that it’s not ideal. The worst part is git is a decentralized protocol; yet github has centralized it, basically forcing developers to use it if they want their projects to live, or get a job. It’s a vicious cycle.

But i still think developers should migrate to codeberg, if all of us just wait for codeberg to get big to use it, there’d be no users in the first place. Even if you put your project as a mirror, it’s still a step, or even better: vice versa, see river.

I didn’t know, thanks. But last commit was 8 months ago :(

Codeberg is criminally underrated. The UI is great, it’s 100% open source, it has CI, and it will have federation in the future. It’s a shame more people don’t use it. Piefed/river and a bunch of cool niche projects are on it though :D

The lemmy developers should seriously think of moving lemmy to codeberg, it’d be in line with lemmy’s anti-corporate stance.

Nah, they should make it Phoenician most European languages are descended from it, Including English. The true universal language.

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Our history sounds shockingly similar to Animal Farm.

Revolt against the Ottoman colonizers

The Hashemite dynasty rules the Hejaz for 10 years

Get invaded by the Saud dynasty, an ultraconservative, wahhabist group

Become an absolute monarch, where criticism = death by beheading

Pretend how it’s great here, and how nothing ever goes wrong here

Destroy history of our past

Become a lifeless country, where all our work and natural resources are reserved for the Sauds

By islamic law, we are all equal. But some of us, are more equal than others.

Next step, is probably to centralize all power to MBS, which he partially already did.

Probably dictatorships.

In saudi (technically not a dictatorship, but an autocratic monarchy) corruption is so rampant and widespread that it’s not even suprising anymore. The biggest culprits are the royal family, so of course they’d make saudi cushy for criminals like them.

Also, the workers rights here are horrible, fucking SLAVERY is still legal.

“Science isn’t about why - it’s about why not. Why is so much of our science dangerous? Why not marry safe science if you love it so much? In fact, why not invent a special safety door that won’t hit you in the butt on the way out, because you are fired! Not you, test subject. You’re doing fine. Yes, you. Box. Your stuff. Out the front door. Parking lot. Car. Goodbye.”

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Bluesky may be a circle-jerk, but at least it isn’t a literal neo nazi platform. We still have a ways to go till the fediverse goes mainstream.

Hm, good point, It seems I over complicated the whole process.

Thanks for sharing your post by the way, it’s very well written.

Good read, thanks for sharing. But i think both of us are over estimating the tech literacy of the average user. Many of them look at software, or ideas, or platforms at surface level, and don’t care much about how software works internally.

The average user isn’t going to care about federation, and might not even understand it. To us and the OP of the reddit thread, we’re familiar with federation, and have gotten used to it. It seems easy for us.

This is why i think the bluesky exodus is going to be useful, because it may inspire new users to learn about federation, and later on, the fediverse.

We definitely should make a poll to understand our demographics, eventually. Maybe i’ll do it one day. It would be a huge benefit for us users and developers.

As for reasons why people don’t choose to try lemmy, i remember before i joined lemmy that i heard warnings of the developers and community denying genocides, making up false information, and being toxic in general etc. I also couldn’t wrap my mind around instances. That definitely soured my opinion, to be honest. Of course, now i know those are only a couple of instances that could easily be blocked, but the average user isn’t going to understand instances, federation, etc.

The reason why bluesky was so successful was because it’s easy. It has pseudo-federation, but it ““conveniently”” chooses the main server for you. That’s why most users are on bsky.social. Simple, but incredibly centralized. It defeats the point. Also, the UI is very similar to old twitter. Lemmy/mbin are more radical in terms of differences, this makes it more niche.

I just don’t think people are ready for the fediverse, yet. Maybe in a couple of years, people will start joining us, but for now, we’re the minority.

Maybe not, but nowadays, most are. And you are correct, they believe in free markets and private property, with little regulation.

I should have specified, i was talking about classical liberalism. Social liberals are center-left to left wing.

The way i see it, the barebones definition of right wing and left wing is that leftism supports minimization, or abolishment of hierarchy, and equality, both class and social. You don’t have to be 100% of all these points to be left wing, just a degree of it.

The right wing believes that hierarchies are natural, and inevitable, or even desirable. They believe inequality is natural, due to social differences. Most of them believe that authority is good (not exclusive to right wing politics, there are authoritarian leftist ideologies) with libertarians and ancaps being an exception.

Classical liberals believe in free market, and generally have negative views on social services, taxes, and such.

Social liberals believe in a mixed economy, and favour social services, and believe in social justice (also class equality, but not a huge talking point for them). I think this makes them center, and at most, center-left (See social democracy or the nordic model). What makes them different than socialists and communists is that they are not quite radical in comparison to them, socialists desire to minimize wealth inequality (and inequality in general. politically, socially, etc) as much as possible.

Another point that you brought up is private property. I think this is also a defining factor on why I think liberals tend to be more right leaning.

You can still believe in markets, and be far left. Socialism, is when the workers own the means of production. It’s a pretty barebones definition, which makes it possible to have free markets, AND socialism. See Mutualism, Market Socialism, and Titoism

My intent was not to cause division, I originally meant to clear things up for the user I was originally replying to, but things quickly descended into arguing about semantics. I agree that we should all work together to eliminate the rising threat of far right, fascist parties worldwide. That is what we should be focusing on.

I’m tired over me bikeshedding, So i’m just going to forfeit out of this argument.

Have a great weekend

Seems that I am not as educated as you on liberalism. I focus more on socialist ideologies rather than liberalism or other ideologies, So I’ll give this one to you.

Have a great weekend :)