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The closest that you can get is using something like Grayjay, where they have their own social media system, but your comments will only be interactable to other people using Grayjay.

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Thanks for sharing the actual license text.

To me, this stinks of companies knowing that if they’re actually required to reproduce the data, they’ll get hit with copyright infringement or other IP-related litigation. Whereas if they can just be trusted to very honestly list their sources, they can omit the sources they weren’t authorized to steal and reproduce content from, they can get away with it.

I think that, in practice, this means that the industry standard will be to lie and omit the incriminating data sources, and when someone tries to reproduce the model they won’t actually be able to, but they also won’t be able to easily prove one way or another if data was withheld.

Really, what should (but won’t) happen, is that we should fix our broken IP laws and companies should be held to account for when they engage in behavior that would be prosecuted as piracy or Computer Fraud and Abuse if you or I did it.

AI is pretty much the epitome of companies getting to act with impunity in the eyes of the law and exerting that power over everyone else, and it’s annoying to see it get a blessing from an “open source” organization.

“The new definition requires Open Source models to provide enough information about their training data so that a ‘skilled person can recreate a substantially equivalent system using the same or similar data,’ which goes further than what many proprietary or ostensibly Open Source models do today,” said Ayah Bdeir, who leads AI strategy at Mozilla.

Garbage. What this says to me is that they’re going to allow companies that create models that were trained on data that would be illegal for you and me to scrape and regurgigate, to keep the data to themselves as long as they “provide enough information” for someone else that lacks the resources or legal impunity that companies have to theoretically re-steal the data. Which, you know, means that the models won’t be reproducible by any reasonable standard, and can’t actually be called open source.

But the OSI is just a handful of companies in a trenchcoat, so I’m not surprised by what they would call “open”.

I’m on mobile, but I stand by what I said. Responding to someone that was responding to someone else that was being obstinate with average response when I ask for help is missing the actual point.

The OP that I quoted wanted to be combative, got a combative response, and then someone else you made it about “asking for help”, which is their your fault if they you think that this thread had anything to do with it.

No it literally doesn’t work it’s not compatible. Also don’t be a bitch…

That is a really interesting way of asking for help. Next time I need help, I’ll try being obstinate and predetermining that the thing I need help with just doesn’t work while calling them a bitch and see how that goes.

I usually try actually asking for help and refrain from calling the person I’m talking to a bitch.

This is a joke, right?