Sorry if I’m the millionth to ask this, but what are some good trustworthy email providers? Even if paid. But if I’m paying it’d best if it’s privacy focused. Thanks!

  • BananaTrifleViolin@lemmy.world
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    29 days ago

    I use Proton mail. I like the suite of products (mail, calendar and storage), and it’s been reliable. They also seem to be secure.

    You can use your own domain with them which is pretty standard but a good idea if you want long term email independence/remoce vendor lockin.

    I also like that Proton mail are going down a non-profit route and have open sourced their apps. I’m not suggesting they’re perfect, but these moves and the scale of their set up makes me feel happier to use them.

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    29 days ago

    as far as i am aware protonmail is pretty popular. I am hosting my own mail infrastructure but am considering to switch in the long run

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      29 days ago

      I’m hearing about proton but they feel very scummy. Is proton(vpn and mail) actually privacy centered, doesn’t log and doesn’t sell data?

      While I tought about self hosting an email, but doesn’t that come with lots of problems, like you can’t garantee five nines of uptime, or someone emails you cp, or websites not accepting custom domains? I also heard it’s easly hackable.

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          It looks way to much like big corp. And money corrupts. Why do I get a calendar, a vaul, a vpn, and a mail service for free. I know it’s limited services, but for free? I feel like I must be the product.

          I get when it’s a non-profit, or living off donations, but Proton is either of those

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            29 days ago

            money corrupts

            This is exactly the reason that Proton became a non-profit:

            https://proton.me/blog/proton-non-profit-foundation

            Swiss foundations and their board of trustees are legally obligated to act in accordance with the purpose for which they were established, which, in this case, is to defend Proton’s original mission. As the largest voting shareholder of Proton, no change of control can occur without the consent of the foundation, allowing it to block hostile takeovers of Proton, thereby ensuring permanent adherence to the mission.

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              28 days ago

              Proton is still a for-profit company. However, there is now the non-profit Proton Foundation that is the largest shareholder of the Proton company (not necessarily majority shareholder).

              Plus, non-profits are not guaranteed to be positive. See OpenAI for example.

              Edit: Grammar

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            To be fair, the Proton Foundation is a non-profit and is the majority shareholder of Proton.

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              29 days ago

              The foundation is the largest shareholder, but Proton has not specified whether it controls a majority.

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    Proton! They’re based in Switzerland (I believe), which is known for its privacy laws. Proton Docs is absolute shit, but it’s their newest product, so I imagine it’ll get better eventually. Their email, storage, and VPN services are fantastic and have both free and paid options.

    Edit: I’m not American, just incredibly dumb…

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      I don’t believe Switzerland is a Nordic country, but +1 for Proton here. A lot of their newer products like Drive need a good amount of work, but Mail and VPN are working great for me.

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      27 days ago

      Switzerland is not a Nordic country

      And very small precision, their newest product is Wallet (for cryptos 😭)

      The rest is true. Go Proton