Sorry if I’m the millionth to ask this, but what are some good trustworthy email providers? Even if paid. But if I’m paying it’d best if it’s privacy focused. Thanks!

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    I’m hearing about proton but they feel very scummy. Is proton(vpn and mail) actually privacy centered, doesn’t log and doesn’t sell data?

    While I tought about self hosting an email, but doesn’t that come with lots of problems, like you can’t garantee five nines of uptime, or someone emails you cp, or websites not accepting custom domains? I also heard it’s easly hackable.

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        It looks way to much like big corp. And money corrupts. Why do I get a calendar, a vaul, a vpn, and a mail service for free. I know it’s limited services, but for free? I feel like I must be the product.

        I get when it’s a non-profit, or living off donations, but Proton is either of those

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          money corrupts

          This is exactly the reason that Proton became a non-profit:

          https://proton.me/blog/proton-non-profit-foundation

          Swiss foundations and their board of trustees are legally obligated to act in accordance with the purpose for which they were established, which, in this case, is to defend Proton’s original mission. As the largest voting shareholder of Proton, no change of control can occur without the consent of the foundation, allowing it to block hostile takeovers of Proton, thereby ensuring permanent adherence to the mission.

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            Proton is still a for-profit company. However, there is now the non-profit Proton Foundation that is the largest shareholder of the Proton company (not necessarily majority shareholder).

            Plus, non-profits are not guaranteed to be positive. See OpenAI for example.

            Edit: Grammar

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          To be fair, the Proton Foundation is a non-profit and is the majority shareholder of Proton.

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            The foundation is the largest shareholder, but Proton has not specified whether it controls a majority.