• notfromhere@lemmy.one
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    2 days ago

    Basically ration it. Citizen #1346733 each month is allowed:

    • two loaves of bread (any ingredient makeup as individuals have individual needs)
    • Standard Issue: house credit
    • Standard Issue: water credit
    • Standard Issue: electric credit
    • etc.

    Standard Issue Credits are expected to cover the complete cost of the median citizen’s usage. Citizens can pool credits to afford larger houses, e.g., families of four would have 4x credits to spend.

    This is extremely easy to implement with (evil, no good) blockchain, have government issue them, citizens spend them, merchants resell them back to government.

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      2 days ago

      Agreed, but sounds more like socialism with authoritarian overtones. I don’t see why we’d need UBI

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        2 days ago

        I agree with the socialism part, but I’m not picking up on the authoritarian overtones. I would want a system like this to be flexible to meet the basic living needs of each person and would view it as more of a stepping stone to a post-scarcity society.

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          2 days ago

          The whole social credit thing sounds like something that could easily be taken away depending on your political beliefs

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            1 day ago

            These things already exist. Credit scores determine whether or not you can buy a house in certain neighborhoods. People are being deported for their political beliefs. The US has the largest prison population on the planet, both per capita and sheer numbers. When/if you do get out of prison, felonies stay with you the rest of your life, even for something ridiculous like marijuana possession.

            You’re worried about a hypothetical when there’s the real thing right in front of you.

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              I agree largely, but we still live in a society where you don’t need to pass a credit score to get groceries.

              How will removing that not be seen as authoritarian?

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            2 days ago

            That’s where things like decentralized autonomous organization (DAO) and smart contracts could come into play. Maybe we could start implementing this without ever involving the government at all.

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        2 days ago

        You don’t need anything. You observe problems and propose/ test solutions.

        This was a test.

        Feel fucking free to propose different solutions or spin up your own fucking tests.

        Or… Keep being vaguely negative without any, ANY corresponding arguments

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          2 days ago

          Fair: government provides cheaper alternatives to food retailers and housing, forcing said entities to push their prices down to compete.

          No credit needed, no single source for food or shelter.

          That’s my whole solution.